VAM 176 | Interview with Jennifer Hale, Part 1
Welcome to episode 176 of the Voice Acting Mastery podcast with yours truly, Crispin Freeman!
As always, you can listen to the podcast using the player above, or download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of this blog post. The podcast is also available via the iTunes Store online. Just follow this link to view the podcast in iTunes:
http://www.voiceactingmastery.com/podcast
I’m honored to share with you the first part of my interview with a true giant in the world of voice acting, Jennifer Hale! Jennifer has been recognized by the Guinness Book of World Records as the most prolific video game voice actress! You may be familiar with her work as the Female Commander Shepard a.k.a. FemShep in the Mass Effect game franchise, Naomi Hunter in Metal Gear Solid, Sarah Palmer in Halo, Bastila Shan in Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Rivet in Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart, and one of my personal favorites, Ashe in Overwatch! In animation, she’s played Avatar Kyoshi in Avatar: The Last Airbender and the Legend of Korra, Jean Grey in Wolverine and the X-men, and she also does the voice for Cinderella in numerous Disney animated shows and games.
One of the reasons I was so excited to get Jennifer on the podcast is not only does she have top notch acting skills, but she also has a passion for understanding the business side of the voice over industry. I’ve mentioned this in earlier episodes of the podcast, but if you want to consistently book work as a voice actor, it is vital to not only have professionally competitive acting skills, but also to have a solid understanding of the economic dynamics and business pressures of the industry. Such practical and financial knowledge will help you position yourself better in the voice over marketplace and also help you understand what you need to do to promote yourself as effectively as possible.
In this episode, we begin our discussion with Jennifer telling me how she broke into acting. It turns out she faced many challenges when growing up. She moved around a lot as a kid and was regularly made fun of at school. It didn’t help that her mother was often a single parent who wasn’t very enthusiastic about raising children. Facing such instability in her personal life, Jennifer’s survival technique was to become extremely independent and self-sufficient. She had to grow up quickly and take personal responsibility for her own journey through life. For example, the night before she had to audition at a performing arts high school, her mother went out to spend time with friends at a bar. Since there was no one to watch Jennifer if she stayed home, her mother took her along and had her sit in the parked car outside the bar until about 1 in the morning. Stuck in the car and having nothing else to do, Jennifer proceeded to memorize a monologue that she then performed eight hours later at 9am when she finally did arrive at the auditions for her high school. That’s an incredible amount of pressure to have to manage as a young person, but somehow Jennifer found her way through the difficult and daunting circumstances she faced. Her story is one of amazing resourcefulness and courage.
Jennifer is the first to admit that these hardships took a toll on her psychologically. She also mentions how important it was for her to get therapy in order to find a way to process these experiences in a healthy manner. However, the challenges she faced when she was young also helped sharpen her desire for freedom and independence. Lacking external guidance from her mother, Jennifer began to rely on her own internal compass when trying to figure out how to proceed in life. She speaks often about being taken over by the muse or some other inspiration that guided her in moments of challenge or crisis. That guidance would motivate her to take advantage of any acting opportunity that presented itself to her no matter how small. She always did her best to capitalize on those opportunities to the fullest. This meant that she gained many kinds of creative experiences as she was growing up. She not only worked as an actress, but she also worked behind the scenes as a production assistant helping film crews to make commercials and other content. This wide range of experience in the entertainment industry helped her greatly as she moved forward in her career. It also honed her internal guidance which eventually led her to the world of voice acting.
As I mention in the episode, Jennifer has two websites that offer more information and assistance.
One is her Patreon page which helps with financial education called the Haven which you can access at the link below:
https://www.patreon.com/jenniferhale
The other is SkillsHub.life, an online community by actors and for actors that allows members to access working creators and entertainment industry professionals who offer short, customized coaching opportunities to help you address a variety of topics, from improving your artistry, to managing your business strategy.
I hope you find those websites useful!
VAM 174 | 10th Anniversary Episode, Part 1
Welcome to episode 174 of the Voice Acting Mastery podcast with yours truly, Crispin Freeman!
As always, you can listen to the podcast using the player above, or download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of this blog post. The podcast is also available via the iTunes Store online. Just follow this link to view the podcast in iTunes:
http://www.voiceactingmastery.com/podcast
In this episode, I’d like to take the time to celebrate an important milestone.
The Voice Acting Mastery podcast is now officially 10 years old! I released my first podcast episode in July of 2011. Back then I had no idea the kind of journey I would go on through producing this podcast. It’s been an amazing endeavor, and over the past decade, I’ve done my very best to share the most useful and practical information I could on what it takes to succeed as a professional voice actor. I’ve shared my own experiences and expertise to the best of my ability, and along the way I’ve also had many opportunities to interview some of the most talented people in the industry. Hearing their stories and insights has been inspirational, and I hope that the content I’ve provided in this podcast has in some way helped each and every one of my listeners.
In addition to producing the main Voice Acting Mastery podcast, I also produced a sister podcast with some very talented people, whom I was grateful to work with. For three years, I was joined by some of my younger voice acting colleagues in creating the Voice Acting Mastery Field Report, which, if you haven’t checked out already, should still be available both at VoiceActingMastery.com and through many online podcast directories including Apple’s. While the Field Report did eventually come to an end, I’m grateful to my correspondents, Tom Bauer, Ashley Huyge, Dan Will McCann, and Maureen Price for their hard work and insightful episodes. I also want to thank my wife and partner, Izobel Freeman, who has helped support me during this entire endeavor. She designed the Voice Acting Mastery Logos for both my website and for the podcast episodes. She’s also helped edit the writing on every single episode of the podcast to make sure that it was as clear, focused, and empowering as possible. Her artistic contributions and emotional encouragement have been invaluable throughout the entire life of the Voice Acting Mastery brand and I could not have done this without her!
For this 10th anniversary episode, I asked my listeners to either call in or e-mail me a voice message letting me know how the Voice Acting Mastery podcast may have influenced their own acting journey or any other part of their lives! I thought it would be a nice way to celebrate the occasion if I shared some of the messages I received and responded to them here. I have been overwhelmed by people’s appreciation for the podcast and while I don’t have time to share everyone’s heartfelt comments in this episode, I want you all to know that I did listen to every single message and I’m so grateful for and humbled by them all. It was amazing to hear all of your stories, thoughts and thank you’s for the last ten years we’ve spent together and for any impact I, my guests, or the insights we’ve shared may have had in your life. Thank you for all your kind words. They mean so much, and I’m honored that you took the time to send them in.
In this episode, I’d like to share 3 messages from listeners who talk about how the podcast helped their mindset when it came to approaching voice acting. In the next episode, I’ll be sharing 3 more messages from listeners who explain how the podcast affected their practical approach to a voice acting career.
The first message I received from a voice actor who has actually been a student of mine in the past, Kevin Powe from Australia! He wanted to thank me for 2 pieces of advice he learned from the podcast:
First, when it comes to auditions, do them, and then forget them. Leave them in your wake as you move forward.
and Second, don’t think about projects in terms of “I really want to be credited on that.”, “I love that show” or “I love that property, so I want to be a part of it”. Instead think, “What can I bring to that?”, “How can I make that better by being a part of it?”
I expand on both of Kevin’s points and explain how one naturally follows from the other.
The second message I receive is from Sabina in Gothenburg Sweden! An important lesson she learned from the podcast was to value expressing one’s artistic message rather than trying to impress the people around you. It helped her value her own voice and her own identity. I talk about how transitioning from impressing to expressing is a common theme in almost all archetypal hero journeys and is an essential part of becoming an authority for one’s own life! By learning to express rather than impress, you’re following in the footsteps of some of the most famous mythological heroes that have come before you!
The third message is from Matt in Dallas, Texas. He’s grateful to have learned from the podcast that there is no “right” way to perform a character. Even though he studied acting in high school, and continued his studies in college, it wasn’t until he started listening to the podcast early in his college career, that he suddenly realized that there was no “right” way to perform a character. It was far more important to be truthful in one’s performance than to try and perform a character the “right” way.
I suffered from a similar misconception when I was young, so listening to Matt is like listening to a younger version of myself! I explain why the paradigm of right and wrong is such a pervasive mindset in school, but how it does not serve us when approaching an artistic endeavor like voice acting. The paradigm that I use to evaluate a performance is not if it’s right or wrong, but if it’s believable or not believable. I explain how believability activates empathy in an audience and how Matt’s desire to be truthful is one of the best ways to be believable.
In the next episode, I’ll answer some more listener calls, but this time instead of focusing on mindset we’ll focus on calls that address the practical approach one can take to pursue a professional voice acting career. Thanks again to everyone who called in and voiced their sincere appreciation for the podcast. It means the world to me and I’m grateful to all of my listeners. I hope you’ll join me again for the next episode, and until then, I wish you all the best in your voice acting endeavors. Take care.
Download Voice Acting Mastery Episode #174 Here (MP3)
VAM 173 | Interview with Lisa Ortiz, Part 2
Welcome to episode 173 of the Voice Acting Mastery podcast with yours truly, Crispin Freeman!
As always, you can listen to the podcast using the player above, or download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of this blog post. The podcast is also available via the iTunes Store online. Just follow this link to view the podcast in iTunes:
http://www.voiceactingmastery.com/podcast
Welcome to the second and final part of my interview with voice actress and voice director, Lisa Ortiz! Lisa has worked on such seminal anime series as Record of Lodoss War, The Slayers, Revolutionary Girl Utena, and the Irresponsible Captain Tylor. She’s also played many characters in Pokemon in addition to voice directing over 150 episodes of the show! Lisa and I started voice acting in anime in the late 1990’s, but whereas I moved to Los Angeles in late 2001, Lisa has only recently moved to LA in late 2019 after having spent the previous years pursuing voice acting and voice directing in New York City! I’ve been eager to get Lisa on the podcast to share her East Coast perspective on voice acting for those of my listeners who may reside closer to the Big Apple than to Southern California!
As we dive deeper into our discussion, I ask what inspired Lisa to become a performer in the first place. It turns out we both got into acting for very similar reasons! Lisa’s primary motivation for pursuing acting was to understand people better. She was shy when she was young and found acting to be a useful way to help her understand other people’s psychologies and motivations. I too was an incredibly shy person who didn’t always understand the emotional physics of how people related to each other. Role playing as different characters in different situations gave me a safe space to explore both my own psyche, as well as the psychology of other people so I could relate to them more effectively.
Another huge influence on Lisa was the public library system. Her family lived on Long Island in NY when she was young and they didn’t have a large budget for entertainment. Lisa’s mother would often take her daughter to the library where Lisa was able to explore not only literature, but all the audio and video resources in the library as well, including recordings of famous Broadway shows! The public library was an invaluable resource to Lisa. It allowed her to learn about storytelling in ways that never would’ve been available to her without it. Access to such a wealth of literature, plays, and music, whetted Lisa’s appetite for more and inspired her to apply her knowledge of story to performing on stage.
As our conversation comes to a close, Lisa shares with me her advice for the aspiring voice actor, including how important it is to develop good vocal technique in order to avoid damaging the very fragile instrument that is your voice! She also stresses the importance of finding a physicality for your character. Rooting your performance in your body will always help your acting sound more authentic and less pre-meditated. Lisa’s got some great insight into the actor’s process in this episode, and I’m eager to share her wisdom with you!
Also, it turns out that the 10th anniversary of the Voice Acting Mastery podcast is rapidly approaching! I released my first episode way back on July 1st, 2011, and it has always been my goal to provide the most concise and useful content when it comes to this topic that we all love.
In honor of the podcast’s 10th anniversary, I would so appreciate it if any of my listeners would be willing to call in and leave a message about how Voice Acting Mastery has influenced your own acting journey or any other part of your life. I’d like to feature some of these messages and respond to them in the 10th anniversary episode in July.
You can leave a voicemail by calling 323-696-2655. Please remember to state your first name and what city in the world you’re calling from before leaving your message. Thanks again for listening and as always, I wish you all the best in your voice acting endeavors. Take care!
VAM 172 | Interview with Lisa Ortiz, Part 1
Welcome to episode 172 of the Voice Acting Mastery podcast with yours truly, Crispin Freeman!
As always, you can listen to the podcast using the player above, or download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of this blog post. The podcast is also available via the iTunes Store online. Just follow this link to view the podcast in iTunes:
http://www.voiceactingmastery.com/podcast
Welcome to the first part of my interview with voice actress and voice director, Lisa Ortiz! It’s a real honor to have Lisa on the podcast since she played the lead character, Lina Inverse, in the first anime series I ever worked on as a voice actor, The Slayers! You may also know Lisa as the voice of Deedlit in the anime series Record of Lodoss War, Amy Rose in the Sonic X Animated Series, and numerous characters in both the Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh anime franchises! Lisa has also voice directed many animated series and games including over 150 episodes of Pokemon!
Lisa and I both got our start as voice actors in the late 1990s in New York City, but it wasn’t long before our paths ended up diverging! In November of 2001 I moved to Los Angeles while Lisa stayed in New York in order to pursue voice over opportunities there. For the next 18 years, we both worked as voice actors on opposite coasts of the country, until late 2019 when Lisa decided to make the move to Los Angeles herself. I’ve been eager to chat with her about what the voice over industry has been like in New York while I was gone, and what insights she can share for those of my listeners who may live closer to The Big Apple than Southern California!
We begin our discussion by reminiscing about our time working on the Slayers. Back then, the anime dubbing industry in New York City was just getting started and the two of us got in on the “ground floor” so to speak. While we both had theatrical acting training, learning how to perform in a small recording booth without a scene partner and matching the lip flap of a character on a video screen was a new challenge for us. We were often figuring out our dubbing technique on the fly and learning from each other as we went! Both of us relied on our theater training to help us find a physicality for our characters which helped our performances sound more authentic and believable. It also helped us avoid stiff or awkward line readings.
Strangely enough, pursuing a career as a voice actor might never have happened for Lisa if she hadn’t woken up one morning and found that her car had gone missing! Her efforts to track down her car, and the serendipitous adventures that followed, eventually led to her being able to audition for her first anime dubbing job. In fact, the more you learn about Lisa’s journey as a voice actor, the more you’ll hear how much serendipity has played an important role in the development of her career! Her success hasn’t all been due to mere luck, however. As the saying goes, luck is when preparation meets opportunity and Lisa has always been very committed to being as prepared as possible! Even with all her experience, she’s still eager to learn more and develop her acting skills even further. I really admire her commitment to the craft of acting. It’s a pleasure to have her on the podcast and I’m so happy that I get to share her story with you!
Also, it turns out that the 10th anniversary of the Voice Acting Mastery podcast is rapidly approaching! I released my first episode way back on July 1st, 2011, and it has always been my goal to provide the most concise and useful content when it comes to this topic that we all love.
In honor of the podcast’s 10th anniversary, I would so appreciate it if any of my listeners would be willing to call in and leave a message about how Voice Acting Mastery has influenced your own acting journey or any other part of your life. I’d like to feature some of these messages and respond to them in the 10th anniversary episode in July.
You can leave a voicemail by calling 323-696-2655. Please remember to state your first name and what city in the world you’re calling from before leaving your message. Thanks again for listening and as always, I wish you all the best in your voice acting endeavors. Take care!
VAM 171 | Interview with Darin De Paul, Part 2
Welcome to episode 171 of the Voice Acting Mastery podcast with yours truly, Crispin Freeman!
As always, you can listen to the podcast using the player above, or download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of this blog post. The podcast is also available via the iTunes Store online. Just follow this link to view the podcast in iTunes:
http://www.voiceactingmastery.com/podcast
Welcome to second and final part of my interview with the fabulously energetic Darin De Paul! You may be familiar with his voice acting work in World of Warcraft, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Final Fantasy 15, Apex Legends, and Overwatch. Darin’s enthusiasm for his characters comes through in all the work he does and even spills over into conventions where he often will host panels and events for the fans!
In the previous episode, Darin told us about his extensive theater career and how it eventually led him to become a voice actor. He spent many years training and working as a theater actor both in Florida and in New York City, but he had always had an interest in voice over work. When the opportunity to get involved in voice acting came about later in his career, he eagerly pursued every voice over opportunity he could while working as a theater actor on the east coast. Eventually, he and his wife Debra who is also an actress, decided to take a risk and move to Los Angeles to see if they could be successful in a larger voice acting marketplace. Within months, Darin had impressed industry leading voice directors with his vocal range and acting skills. They were eager to work with him and news of his abilities soon spread! It didn’t take long before he was working regularly in AAA video games and animation.
As we continue our discussion, Darin tells me what inspired him to become a performer in the first place. He gives me a two word answer: Peter Sellers. At a very young age, Darin was smitten with the transformative acting abilities of Peter Sellers who is probably most famous for his portrayal of the character Inspector Clouseau in the Pink Panther series of comedy films. Sellers also worked on many other seminal movies including Dr. Strangelove, Stanley Kubrick’s Lolita and Being There. Sellers was notorious for his ability to play many different types of characters, sometimes in the same film! His mercurial skills fascinated Darin who wanted to approach acting with a similar sensibility. Ironically, Darin’s father, who ran an upscale clothing store for men that catered to some on-camera celebrities, once proclaimed that no son of his would become an actor! However, once his young son showed a genuine interest and commitment to acting, he changed his tune and was very supportive of Darin’s desire to become a performer.
After this, Darin and I talk extensively about the different kinds of theater and acting that he was exposed to. It’s fascinating to hear about all the talented performers and inspiring theatrical productions that he saw. Darin and I share a love of the theater and of the special magic that can happen on stage between actors and a live audience. Performing in the theater requires a level of imagination and spontaneity that is incredibly valuable in the world of voice acting! But Darin took this one step further! He actually trained in European Clown technique with David Shiner! This is the kind of clowning you might see in the world famous Cirque du Soleil, where actors adopt a persona, get themselves into some sort of predicament on stage, and then have to improvise their way out of the problem. I found my own European clown training to be some of the most challenging and rewarding acting instruction I ever received and Darin feels the same!
After we discuss our experiences studying European clowning, I then expound on my theory that one of the reasons the performances of the voice actors in the game Overwatch are so compelling is because each of them are in some way embodying their essential internal clowns. This brings an emotional authenticity to their acting that is deeply satisfying to the audience. Afterwards, Darin and I wrap up our discussion with Darin’s advice to the aspiring voice actor. We go very deep into the nuance and joy of performing in front of a live audience and I’m eager for you to absorb all you can from Darin’s amazing journey as an actor!
As I mentioned in the previous episode, I also want to thank Debra Cardona, Darin’s wife, for acting as recording engineer for Darin as we did this interview. I’m so grateful for her assistance!
Also, it turns out that the 10th anniversary of the Voice Acting Mastery podcast is rapidly approaching! It’s hard to believe, but it’s true! I released my first episode way back on July 1st, 2011, and I sincerely hope this podcast has been helpful to you. It has always been my goal to provide the most concise and useful content when it comes to this topic that we all love.
In honor of the podcast’s 10th anniversary, I would so appreciate it if any of my listeners would be willing to call in and leave a message about how Voice Acting Mastery has influenced your own acting journey or any other part of your life. I’d like to feature some of these messages and respond to them in the 10th anniversary episode in July.
You can leave a voicemail by calling 323-696-2655. Please remember to state your first name and what city in the world you’re calling from before leaving your message. Thanks again for listening and as always, I wish you all the best in your voice acting endeavors. Take care!
VAM 170 | Interview with Darin De Paul, Part 1
Welcome to episode 170 of the Voice Acting Mastery podcast with yours truly, Crispin Freeman!
As always, you can listen to the podcast using the player above, or download the mp3 using the link at the bottom of this blog post. The podcast is also available via the iTunes Store online. Just follow this link to view the podcast in iTunes:
http://www.voiceactingmastery.com/podcast
For today’s episode, I want to share with you the first part of my interview with the incredibly enthusiastic and completely inimitable Darin De Paul! Darin took the voice acting world by storm the moment he arrived in Los Angeles in 2013. You may know him as the voice of Blackhand in World of Warcraft, Warlords of Draenor, Emperor Valkorion in Star Wars: The Old Republic, Arden Izunia in Final Fantasy 15, Revenant in Apex Legends, and one of my personal favorites, Reinhardt in Overwatch. Darin’s passion for voice acting is infectious and he has become a fixture at many different fan conventions, including BlizzCon where he often hosts panels and events.
As we begin our discussion, Darin recounts to me the unique and serendipitous journey he took into the world of voice acting. Darin began his acting career in the theater. He spent many decades acting both in Florida where he was born and raised, as well as in New York City. While his focus was on stage performance, he had always had a fascination with character voice acting work. Unfortunately, most of the people he spoke to in New York told him that the majority of voice over work in the area was for commercials, not characters. This didn’t deter him however. While working on a show at the Shakespeare Theater of New Jersey, he met a man who ran a loop group. For those of you who don’t know, a loop group is a group of actors who are hired to provide the background voices in films and television shows. This particular loop group was about to work on the animated film, Ice Age, and Darin was eager to participate! He auditioned and was accepted. Because of his extensive theater background, Darin was able to improvise many different voices for the film and came away from that experience excited to do more. However, it took him quite a while to find an agent who would be willing to represent him as a voice over talent. Eventually, an agency did take a chance on him and sent him out to audition for a monster character in a commercial for an airline. He booked the job and has been hooked on voice acting ever since!
Even with his newfound success, it still took many years before Darin and his wife, Deborah who is also an actress, finally decided to take the plunge, leave New York and fly to Los Angeles to see what voice over and acting opportunities they could find in Southern California. It was a fortuitous decision. Within 6 months of landing in LA, Darin took a voice over class with Andrea Toyias at Blizzard Entertainment, impressed her with his abilities, and began working on projects with her. His voice over career has done nothing but expand since then.
What I love about talking with Darin is that you can feel how much appreciation he has for the craft of acting. He didn’t get into acting because he wanted to become famous. After all, pursuing an acting career in the theater is definitely not a path to great celebrity or vast riches. Instead, Darin’s love for characters and story inspired him to become an actor for the sheer artistic satisfaction of it. He just loved it so much. That passion for acting coupled with a deep commitment to continually challenging himself to grow as an artist, took his theatrical acting career in so many interesting directions, which you’ll hear about in this episode! Nowadays, Darin draws on the wealth of his diverse theater experiences when voice acting characters. I hope that listening to his journey will inspire you to broaden your own acting skills so you can apply the rich experience you gain to the characters that you voice, just like Darin does!
One last thing. Debra, Darin’s wife, was kind enough to be the sound engineer for Darin’s interview so you may hear her voice in the background from time to time. They often help each other out when one of them has to record something for an audition or an acting job. I’m so grateful to Debra for helping make this interview happen! So without further ado, here’s Darin.